Tuesday, September 12, 2017

OCTOBER 2017 VISA BULLETIN: ANALYSIS FOR 2017-2018

The Department of State has just issued the October 2017 Visa Bulletin.  This is the first Visa Bulletin of Fiscal Year 2018.  This blog post analyzes this month's Visa Bulletin.  The DOS has added some predication on future date movement.  We have encompassed those thoughts within our category comments.  

October 2017 Visa Bulletin

Applications with these dates may be approved for their Green Card (Permanent Residency card).

EB 
Class 
All Other  
CHINA       
INDIA     
MEXICO   
PHIL'PNES    
EB-1
C
01JAN12
C
C
EB-2
C
22MAY13
15SEP08 
C
C
EB-3
01JAN14
15OCT06 

01DEC15       


MU Law Analysis

All Other:  The EB-2 has been current for many years.  The EB-3 progression has long been effectively current, and is expected to remain current for the foreseeable future.

China (mainland-born):   The China EB-3 has again progressed faster than Chinese EB-2.  The DOS expects that EB-3 will progress at about 4 months per Visa Bulletin, while EB-2 will only progress one month per Visa Bulletin.

India:  The India progressions are steady, albeit slow.  EB-2 should progress 
one month per Visa Bulletin.  EB-3's progression will be "limited," in the words of the DOS.  MU suspects that EB-3 may finally breakout once the EB-3 date moves past the Visa Gate date of August 2007.

Mexico: Mirrors All Other in all aspects.

Philippines:    The Philippine EB-3 number essentially cleaned out all of the 2010 through 2015 EB-3 visas in FY2017.  Unfortunately the progressions will be considerable slower in FY2018, probably progressing 1-2 months per Visa Bulletin.  The demand for Philippines EB-3 numbers increased dramatically in 2016-17.  This increased demand will be the cause for the slower progressions in the FY2018.

56 comments:

  1. Dear MU. Looking at the October visa bulletin- do you think EB-2 India- 25-August,2009 will be current in 2018? For the last 4-5 years lot of EB-3 Indians might have ported to EB-2 India and there might be very less porting, enabling EB-2 India to start increasing speed?
    Thanks

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    1. Hi Nitin,
      I think India EB-2 is will reach Aug 2009 sometime in Summer/Fall 2018.

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  2. Hello MU! My PD is January 2016 EB3 Philippines and the current date for filing application is August 2016. Will I receive the email instructions from NVC or will it be sent to my employer(petitioner)? Thank you.

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    1. Your employer and you will with both receive the NVC notice. Do not take any action without checking with your employer.

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    2. Thanks MU! :) Do you have any idea on how long I have to wait for the email from NVC? Thank you so much again! :)

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  3. hello MU! my PD is july 2016 under eb3 philippines. in what month do you think it will be current? can i ask the difference between the two charts (current date for filing of application vs final action date)? THANK YOU

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    1. Date of Filing = NVC action can begin. Final Action = green card interview can be issued.

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  4. Hi MU, my priority date is April 2017, when do you think this will be current? I am a Fil Nurse based in New Zealand and I am thorn between moving to Oz in the second quarter of 2018 or just stay here in NZ and process my papers here. If I would have to wait for more than a year from mid 2018 then I would decide on moving to Oz and process my papers over there.

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    1. I suspect that you will be current in Calendar Year 2019. Good luck.

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  5. Hi MU law. Can we expect visa fee bills next month? PD is June 2016. Thanks!

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    1. Visa bills are governed by the DOF chart.

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  6. Why would you be getting visa fee bills? Your date isn't current yet, right?

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    1. Because they are already current on the second chart. It is written on the letter sent by NVC during receipt of the case on NVC that they will already start to issue fee bills and ask for civil documents when the Pd is current on the second chart. You can confirm it if you would like to. Check or see a sample of a letter coming from nvc

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  7. Unless the DoS says the dates for filing chart CAN be used, final action chart is what you look at.

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    1. You're referring for adjustment of status. What cooldude is referring to is for consilar processing.

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    2. there has been discussion in the past about this. and MU stated that only check the Final Action Dates chart unless DoS determines the Dates for Filing Chart can be used.

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    3. You can follow that if you are on adjustment of status and not on consular processing

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    4. A. STATUTORY NUMBERS
      This is from the wibsite of NVC -

      https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/law-and-policy/bulletin/2018/visa-bulletin-for-october-2017.html

      "This bulletin summarizes the availability of immigrant numbers during October for: “Final Action Dates” and “Dates for Filing Applications,” indicating when immigrant visa applicants should be notified to assemble and submit required documentation to the National Visa Center.

      Unless otherwise indicated on the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) website at www.uscis.gov/visabulletininfo, individuals seeking to file applications for adjustment of status with USCIS in the Department of Homeland Security must use the “Final Action Dates” charts below for determining when they can file such applications. When USCIS determines that there are more immigrant visas available for the fiscal year than there are known applicants for such visas, USCIS will state on its website that applicants may instead use the “Dates for Filing Visa Applications” charts in this Bulletin. "

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    1. Sisi Bee & cooldude
      receipt letter from NVC aside, where else did you see that for consular processing, Dates for Filing is used?
      i have searched the USCIS website, and used search engines to find any info about that, but turned out nothing. all i read is "dates for filing may be used if DoS says so. you might want to check the visa bulletin info website, (http://www.uscis.gov/visabulletininfo) for information whether or not the Dates for Filing can be used.

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    2. From NVC and of course personal experiences... applicants who are already current on the table 2 (dates for filing) are already receiving their visa fee bills. The NVC states on their letters that "The Dates for Filing Applications indicates the earliest date the National Visa Center can contact applicants to begin collecting applications, fees and supporting documents for pending immigrant visa cases." please refer to the NVC since they are the deciding body for consular (embassy) processing . The USCIS are for the adjustment of status (for the applicants inside the US territory will go through USCIS only and not the NVC that's why they can decide on what to use, whether it be the final action or dates for filling).

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    3. Hi All:

      To be clear:

      Date of Filing = NVC action can begin.
      Final Action = green card interview can be issued.

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  9. i'm sorry to burst both your bubbles. i'm just trying to figure out why consular processing gets to use the Dates for Filing chart when the AoS uses the Final Action Dates chart. annual visa numerical usage and limits are both based on how many applied for AoS and the Consular processing.

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    1. Nope :) for consular processing, the "final action dates" tells us the current PDs who can undergo embassy interviews. "Dates for filing" are just for NVC processing (visa fee bill, civil documents, ds260)..

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  10. Hi guys,

    I actually receive a letter from NVC. My PD is November 2016. Here is the exact line that they used in the 2nd paragraph;
    "When the priority date on your petition again matches or is earlier than the “Dates for Filing Applications” chart on the Department of State’s Visa Bulletin, we will be able to start processing your petition. We will contact you at that time. You do not need to take any action.
    Hope this will help in your discussion.

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  11. Thanks for that info RedCoral88.
    "Start processing" could mean a lot of things.
    When that time comes, please update this comment thread so we will know exactly what happens when your PD gets current on chart B.

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  12. Welcome. Oh, I forgot to mentioned that I'm done with fee bill, DS260 and submitted the necessary documents last March 2017. I'll keep you updated. what is your PD?

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    1. RedCorall88:
      Just read about consular processing. My assumption why Dates for filing is used is because of the time it takes to turn the application around.
      My PD is May 2016, AoS.

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    2. @och sei: the processing of your application will be a bit different from ours since we are undergoing consular processing and you will undergo adjustment of status. You will not go through NVC. Your papers will stay on USCIS office. Please don't confuse yourself :)

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    3. hi @redcoral88, my pd is july 2016, but i havent received any fee bills yet. why is that since im months ahead from your pd. thanks

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    4. What is your country of preference? Giving of fee bills depends on the visa bulletin and country of preference

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    5. hi @sisi bee, im from the philippines under eb3

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  13. Are you an RN also? kindly update us once you receive any news from NVC. you might be receiving fee bill soon. Best of luck.

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    1. @RedCoral88 Do you also have EB3 Phils .. when did you receive your email from NVC? Thanks!

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  14. Hello guys! I know the feelings that we are all excited to make our dream come true to work in US. My pd is may 2015 and i just received my visa fee bill last aug 2017. Hope this info could help.

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    1. Congrats mm.. are you from the philippines? When on august did you receive your fee bill? I am also waiting for my fee bill to arrive.

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    2. my pd gets current I think june or july 2017 then I received my fee bill around aug. 25,2017.. im eb3 phil..

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  15. Just to give everybody an idea on how to use these 2 charts/tables (dates for filing and final application dates) i'll give you an example scenario:

    EXAMPLE:
    *My pd is november 2015 under the Philippines category. Assuming i am still in PI.
    The visa bulletin for august 2017 goes this way:
    Final action date (chart1): april 2,2013
    Date of filing(chart2): december 5,2015
    This means that i am already current of chart 2(date of filing) since my pd is nov 2015 and as per NVC rule, they will send my fee bill and begin to process my papers. However, i am not yet eligible to have my embassy interview since i am not yet current on table 1 (final action dates). Then i will still continue to wait till i become current on chart 1, given that i will aready be case complete/documentary qualified several months after paying my fee bill, filling up ds250 and sending my civil documents to NVC.

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  16. Thanks MU law for this blog wherein we can have oppurtunities to share our experiences. Guys, does anyone here can share how many weeks or months you have your schedule interview after submitting your ds260 and required documents to nvc.. thank for your response

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    1. After da260 and submission of required documents, you will wait 11 weeks for you to be CC/DQ.. that's if there's no problem or any lacking documents... after that, you will be informed by the NVC that you are CC. And after that you will be given your schedule of interview a month before. So maybe around 5-6 mos

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    2. Thanks for everyone's kind words and input. Sisi Bee has been particularly helpful. (Ready to work in a law firm? :)

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    3. You're welcome MU law. I also want to help others who are on the same boat. Thank you for sharings as well. I've been reading your posts since last year. You've been a great help for all of us.

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  17. hi everyone, since i am already current on chart 2, btw i am eb3 philippines, i can assume that anytime from now i will be receiving visa fee bill? thanks

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    1. @sisi bee, my pd is july 2016 under eb3 philippines.

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    2. Yes- you should get your NVC fee bill process started shortly.

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    3. Hi MU law, do you have any idea how many days or months will i be waiting for the nvc fee bill to arrive?

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  18. Hey guys. We have applied for the eb3 in the UK but we want to go home to the Philippines (country of origin) anytime soon. Would that affect our application in any way?

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    1. In the application, my address stated is the UK address. But we are not UK citizens just work visa. Will going home to the Philippines negatively effect our application? Thank you

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    2. It will delay the application unless it is noted at the NVC stage. Be sure to mention this to the attorney.

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  19. Hi MU law, do you have any idea how many days or months will i be waiting for the nvc fee bill to arrive?

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    1. The October VB does not take effect until Oct 1 (even though it is published in mid-Sept). You should move forward sometime in Oct.

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  20. Once choice of agent has been done, that is 3 weeks. You will receive a letter from NVC that you can pay your visa bill. After 2-3 days, you can now proceed answering your ds260

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